S2.Ep2: Getting out of your Comfort Zone with Angela Zha

Meet the talented Angela, a university student who enjoys art, creative writing and is enthusiastically pursuing a career in finance.

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    Camilla Love

    Welcome, everyone, back to another episode of Shares Not Shoes, an Insider's guide to careers in finance. I'm your host, Camilla Love, founder of Future Females in Finance. Shares Not Shoes is a podcast whereby I interview someone of my favourite people, all with one thing in common. They work in finance. We lift a lid on who they are, how they came into a career in finance, and arm you with some knowledge about why a career in finance could be a good fit for you. I will promise that all my guests will share some amazing personal stories, will be open and honest, and will inspire you. So let's go.

     

    Camilla Love

    This week's episode, we are joined by someone who truly impresses me every day and we get to work together on F Three. Her name is Angela Zha and she is a current student doing commerce at the University of Sydney. Welcome, Angela, and thanks for joining me today.

     

    Angela Zha

    Thanks for having me today, Camilla.

     

    Camilla Love

    It's great that you have been able to say yes to my invitation to come onto the podcast. I really want you to share your journey through at University and sort of give people an understanding, particularly through your eyes and some of your peers and your friends eyes, about why doing a commerce degree and why going through University and aiming to have a finance career is a goal of yours. And I've chosen Angela because you're going through lots of things that everyone is going through at Uni every day, lots of different learning experiences, you're trying to get great marks, you're doing different things, you're doing a lot of student societies, you've had a scholarship, you're lucky. And so we'll talk about that in a little bit. And then why you're interested in a career in finance as your next step, in your first big step, I guess, into your career. So I look forward to you telling and sharing everybody with your story today. So maybe we should start from the top and tell me a little bit about you, your background, what you did at school, even some subjects that you did at school and why you chose them, maybe even some extra curricular stuff that you did leading up to going to and hitting University.

     

    Angela Zha

    Yeah, sounds great. So I would say I was a student who always enjoyed quantitative subjects at school, but it so happened that I always did better in English than math. So always the way, unfortunately. So my choice of subjects in the senior years, it was always guided by what I was interested in rather than what I thought would scale better or what I thought might lead to jobs. For example, I took extension to English because I love the breadth of topics that we got to study, which linked to all sorts of areas like philosophy and history. And I thought that was really interesting. And I loved working on my major work as well. I also took excess.

     

    Camilla Love

    I said art. Hang on, hang on to the art piece. I am a big fan of art. What did you do for your major work? Talk to me about that.

     

    Angela Zha

    So it was mostly a piece of writing but I did do some art in it because I thought I would get a bit creative for it and then mix things up. So as part of extension English you do a major work that's either creative writing or essay writing, whatever is your choice. And then I did one which was critical writing but I thought I'd mix some elements of creative writing in there and I wrote some poems, I put in some drawings of mine and then in the end it was very mixed media and it was really fun to do Fab and it's not often like it's funny because you think about it.

     

    Camilla Love

    You think school is sort of reasonably rigid and you've got lots of boundaries and it's just nice to hear that you're able to sort of flex your creativity and your creative muscle to do some great stuff in your English. Yes.

     

    Angela Zha

    School is what you make of it.

     

    Camilla Love

    Yeah, absolutely. So what else did you do at school?

     

    Angela Zha

    So I took accelerated maths in year eleven and then that left enough space for me to do extension to maths in year twelve because like I said, I really enjoy the quantitative subjects. That was really challenging but I thought it was a really good process because I always have this sense of fulfilment when I solve a really complex math question and I feel so proud of myself.

     

    Camilla Love

    Do we all? So then did you do any like science and you mentioned history? Did you do any in history as well?

     

    Angela Zha

    No, I didn't do history and I would say I'm not a very sciencey person. I didn't enjoy it too much in the junior years but I did do a lot of languages so I really enjoyed German so much that I did German extension in high school and also my German teacher was fantastic so it was really cool and I love learning about different cultures.

     

    Camilla Love

    There's nothing better than having a really good teacher to guide you, particularly when you're in any subject really. But I did German in year eleven and I just wish I had a teacher. As you can tell, when you talk about it you can hear the bright spark in your voice about talking about your teacher. And it's funny how I had one of those teachers in geography and the teacher's name is Mr. Keller and he's like most awesome teacher and he's still teaching geography these days and he's still equally as awesome. So I love those stories because it makes you feel more comfortable. It makes you get better marks.

     

    Angela Zha

    Yes, definitely.

     

    Camilla Love

    And so German is very different to extension English. So how did you marry those two up together?

     

    Angela Zha

    I would say learning German actually helps with my own English writing because as a native English Speaker you don't notice it so much. But there are a lot of different grammatical conventions that you don't exactly know when you grow up. You just use it in everyday life. But then when you learn a different language, you start to learn about former grammatical structures and how syntax and grammar they all come together. And that makes you more aware of your own writing when you do writing in English.

     

    Camilla Love

    So let's talk a little bit about your math. You liked maths? Did you think it was easy for you to do math?

     

    Angela Zha

    I didn't think it was like easy, but I think I did well in it. So it was definitely challenging, especially extension too, because I didn't do science and there were definitely physics elements in there, such as the mechanics topics. But I also had a really good teacher and I had really good classmates as well and we were all really supportive, so that definitely helped me get through it.

     

    Camilla Love

    Great. And now do you have people who are in finance around you? Like, is your mom and dad or uncle? Are they anyone in finance around you?

     

    Angela Zha

    Not particularly, I guess my uncle is in accounting, but my parents are not in finance.

     

    Camilla Love

    When I go and talk to schools and school students in years 10, 11 and twelve and you can tell people who are interested in finance around them, they have the language of talking about finance and understanding and interest in finance. But those people who have parents or people who have influence around them that don't have finance, they're interested in other things, obviously. So I always found that when I was talking to kids at school about careers in finance that it was not necessarily a difficult topic to have a discussion about, but rather a topic that is unknown for a lot of people. Did you find that?

     

    Angela Zha

    I think initially at first, but it did help because I took business studies in high school as an accelerated subject. So it didn't end up counting towards my HSC. But I took it in years nine and ten and there was a finance topic in that and that was my favourite topic out of the whole course. So I thought, yes, I like finance, I want to study it more at University. But I did find out when I first got to interact with the topic, I didn't know too much of what was going on and then it was earning through learning more about it and then reading the news, talking to my teacher that I got the finance terminology and then learn more about the industry, even though when I first came to University, I still, to be honest, didn't know what a person in finance did. And I just chose the subject because I had enjoyed it in high school and I thought it was more maths heavy than some of the other subjects under the business school. I did find that I really enjoyed the subjects. And also one cool thing about the business school is that it offers lots of networking sessions and events for you to meet industry professionals.

     

    Angela Zha

    So talking to them really opens your eyes, lets you get your foot into the industry, know more about it and find out where you could fit.

     

    Camilla Love

    Yeah, that's a great way of thinking about it. And maybe we should jump we'll come back to that. I think that's a really important piece. Let's talk about. So you finished school and were you happy with your mark for high school?

     

    Angela Zha

    Yeah, I was happy with my mark.

     

    Camilla Love

    Did you get into the first choice of what you wanted to do with uni?

     

    Angela Zha

    Yeah, I did. And it also landed me a scholarship for University as well, for the duration of my degree. So I was happy with it.

     

    Camilla Love

    So did you put your hand up for the scholarship or were you given the scholarship? Because I was also a scholarship recipient for my MBA at HSM. But lots of people go, I don't know if I'd ever get a scholarship, but my message is always, you've got to be in it to win it. What's your view on here and how did you go about finding scholarships to apply for and things like that?

     

    Angela Zha

    Yeah. So during year twelve, our careers adviser told us to go out there and apply for scholarships. And I also went on to the University's website and looked at what scholarships they offer. I did apply for a few, including, for example, the Sydney Scholars Award. I didn't end up getting it unfortunately, but I was awarded the Chancellor's Award at the end of year twelve, so I was fortunate to get that.

     

    Camilla Love

    And so what does the scholarship mean at University for you?

     

    Angela Zha

    I guess it means that I'm able to fund my studies more easily and it gives me more chances to meet other people at University. For example, before University started, a lot of award recipients were invited to this event and networking session where they got to meet with each other and discover more that University get access to more resources. So that's definitely been a major help.

     

    Camilla Love

    Yeah, right. So if you're a student out there and you're listening to what you have to say, is there any advice that you would give people who are looking at scholarships?

     

    Angela Zha

    I would say, look inside yourself and don't be afraid to talk yourself up, because for the scholarships, you must let them know who you are and let your passion shine through. Some people might think, oh, I don't want to sound boastful or arrogant, but, you know, the University is not going to know about your strengths and who you are unless you tell them. So really let your passion and your interests shine through.

     

    Camilla Love

    That is a great advice, Angela's advice. And I think that goes for not even people who are at school applying for scholarships. That goes for everybody. So why did you apply for a University? And tell me a little bit about your uni journey. Are you involved in other student societies? What majors are you doing? Why did you choose them? Tell us about your uni journey.

     

    Angela Zha

    Yeah, sure. So as you mentioned before, I'm doing a commerce degree at Sydney University and I major in finance and economics on the finance side. As I said previously, I've had a bit of exposure to it from high school. And as for economics, Funnily enough, I had studied it in year eleven and then dropped it because I thought it was boring. And then when I got to University I changed my mind and I was like, oh, it's actually not too bad. And then now I'm majoring in economics as well. So there's a bit of a mixed journey there, but I enjoy my majors really much. I think they both have that combination of quantitative and qualitative elements which I enjoy, and they both require you to apply both technical knowledge and interact with other people in a team, which I think is really important these days in the industry. And then within University. I was really excited to join lots of student societies in my first year. I remember at orientation week I went around and then I signed up to all these different societies.

     

    Camilla Love

    I think I joined the Chocolate Society.

     

    Angela Zha

    Oh yeah, me too. That was so fun.

     

    Camilla Love

    So did you get involved in any of them at a higher level? Because a lot of people join as a member, but never really sort of get involved in any of the networking or any of the events that they do or even in the leadership capabilities that are offered by the societies.

     

    Angela Zha

    Yeah. So in my first year I was an editor and writer for the business school publication called Inside Enterprise. And as part of that I've got to host or co host an event that launched our flagship magazine and also interact with industry professionals as well. And in my second year I was an artist for the University newspaper Honi Soit. And as I mentioned previously, I enjoy drawing and art, so that was definitely something that spoke to my passion. Then in my third year I was a marketing director for the University Network of investing and trading within the business school.

     

    Camilla Love

    So at University I always talk about using University as a loose framework to learn other stuff that you might not necessarily have the opportunity to learn at any other time. When you sat down and chose your subjects. And obviously we've talked about your majors, what other areas did you say? Okay, I'm really interested in learning in that slightly a bit left of centre or just interesting to me that I'm going to do for sort of passion or interest sake rather than necessarily hitting it on the head for your major.

     

    Angela Zha

    Yeah. So I took a lot of electives which are not actually relevant for my majors. For example, in my second year, I took this elective called Cultures of Food. That was really fun because the final assignment was that you go to a restaurant, you eat, and then you write about your experience. So that was such a fun assignment.

     

    Camilla Love

    So where did you choose? Were you a critic or were you just talking about the culture of the food and the culture and the history?

     

    Angela Zha

    Yes. So I went to this Italian restaurant because you could choose a country to focus on. And I chose Italian food. I love Italian food. And I went there. I had an interview with one of the chefs. I ate, I took photos, selfies, and then I uploaded them, and I wrote about the history of Italian food, how it evolved, and what my experience was like.

     

    Camilla Love

    That is such a great example of the learning capabilities that you have at University that it doesn't just have to be so serious. You can actually take a slight bent on doing stuff that's really unusual. Like, I think I did French film. Right.

     

    Angela Zha

    Interesting.

     

    Camilla Love

    So you never get those opportunities to learn necessarily, in a formal setting about stuff that you wouldn't normally choose. Italian history is rich off, and food is at the centre of it. Just even thinking about conquests and the whole Roman Empire across different cultures. And Italian food is a mixed mash of how it's all been put together. Yeah, I love it.

     

     

    Definitely.

     

    Camilla Love

    So what did you eat? Pizza or set in a very nice accent, too. Thank you. So let's talk about the mix of the scholarship and then your degree at the same time. How do you juggle? Because there's obviously things you have to do for your scholarship. How do you juggle that? As well as doing the normal rigours of what you would normally for your degree?

     

    Angela Zha

    Yeah. So for my scholarship, one requirement is that I maintain a distinction Wam for the duration of my degree. So that is definitely a requirement on my academic studies. But then also outside of University, I also have other commitments, such as my social life, my part time work, as well as my hobbies, including sport and drawing. So I would say to juggle the rigours of University, it really helps to have a good schedule. I like to keep my calendar organised and plan out well in advance when I would start my assignments or when I would study for exams. And this really helps me to avoid procrastination or last minute cramming when things come up.

     

    Camilla Love

    Yeah, everyone goes through it, but at least you can plan.

     

    Angela Zha

    Indeed. And then before an exam period comes up, I do draw up a physical calendar in front of me because I like to see things even when I'm not on my device. And then I would paste that onto my wall and then I would plan out the cake. Today I'm doing this tomorrow. I'm doing that, and I would plan that out alongside with things like running or reading into my daily schedule. So I would know exactly when I would do what. And I would say that really helps me with my time management.

     

    Camilla Love

    And it's important, particularly if you hold that scholarship, that you are living up to all the criteria of that scholarship. So I totally understand a distinction Wam is very difficult to get. Congratulations on keeping that up over your time at University. It's important. So we talked a little bit about you doing finance in business studies at school. So when you got to University and you've done a finance major, when was it that you knew you wanted to have a career in finance? And why was that?

     

    Angela Zha

    So I think I wanted to have a career in finance when I got to do internships in it and I got to interact with people in the industry and find out exactly what work they do. So, for example, one internship that I did is one offered by the business school. It's called an internship placement program. And you apply towards the business school just like you do for a job. You submit an application, do a video interview, assessment centre and a final interview. And after all that, I got matched with a bank in the equity research Department. And at first that was really quite challenging because my manager just tossed this company at me and said, Go do an initiation coverage. And I was like, what? All by myself?

     

    Camilla Love

    What's an initiation coverage? No.

     

    Angela Zha

    Yeah, it was a really steep learning curve, but fortunately, I had a really great and supportive team around me and they provided lots of resources and past examples of models that they have done. And it also enabled me to communicate with senior executives of the company that I was covering and find out their perspectives. So that all really helped with me completing my task over the course of my internship. And I thought that that was a really great opportunity to learn about what work is like in the industry and to see the dynamics of a team from inside rather than from outside, from the perspective of a student. And then another internship that I did is one with FThree, actually. And that was a really exciting experience. My team focused on a portfolio management case and our task was to research different portfolio managers in Australia and evaluate their investment strategies. This was really exciting because it enabled me to apply what I had learned at University to a practical scenario while working with a very motivated and driven team. That was a really rewarding experience as well, which consolidated my interest in finance.

     

    Camilla Love

    Great. So let's talk about that internship. Did you have to apply? So let's not talk about FThree for a second, but let's talk about the one that's the business school. Do you have to go and apply for those internships. And how did you go about how did you feel applying for those internships, or is it just part of the course and I just get to do it?

     

    Angela Zha

    It's not part of the course, unfortunately. I wish it was. Not every student has to do one, but most students do because they offer these on a very frequent basis throughout the year. So it's a partnership that the business school has with companies outside, and you apply to the business school rather than directly to companies outside. And then if you're successful in getting through the different rounds that I mentioned earlier, then the business school will match you with a firm such as I've heard brands like LVMH, Nestle, really big brands out there, and then match you with a company. And then you'll go and do an internship, either part time during the semester or full time within your summer break, and you get to earn credit points for that.

     

    Camilla Love

    Okay, great. Let's talk about being thrown in the deep end there, because let's do an initiation coverage of this company because you can't just go and sort of lean back onto your University studies there. You've actually got to have a lot of soft skills that you've developed over time to be able to go. Okay, cool. I have no idea about what I'm doing here because I've been just dumped in the deep end. You talked about your team and the team environment that you had. What's the importance of soft skills in a situation like that?

     

    Angela Zha

    I think communication is really important. You need to communicate well with your team and then ask questions when you need it because the team won't know if you have questions unless you ask them. And I would also say time management is important as well because I had a set deadline for when I would finish my internship, and I wanted to get as much done as I hope to. So I would set goals for myself over every once few weeks to know what I had achieved.

     

    Camilla Love

    Yeah, great. And I think it's important to have a very supporting team around you to actually go, okay, this person is struggling. I can see that she's struggling here. Let's do as much help as we can because lots of people think that that investment banking environment isn't overly supportive where it actually is. And that's what you're telling me, right?

     

    Angela Zha

    It is, yeah. One of my colleagues in a different team, I would often see her at noon, just go to the gym, come back changed, and then sit back at her desk and start work again. Or I would see people from my own team go out and have lunch at different hours of the day if they are meeting up with a friend and then come back and do work afterwards. And everyone understands that and is really supportive of that.

     

    Camilla Love

    Yeah. And I think that that's really important because who you are at work and what you do around keeping yourself sane and healthy and what you enjoy doing is available within work hours. Just you need to sort of give a little on one side to get a little on the other. So I'm a big advocate of using my lunch break. I don't matter how many hours I happen to want to work that day, but just as long as I have my lunch break to go to the gym, I'm perfectly fine and I'm sane. So you mentioned that we met during one of Fthree's work experience placements. Tell me. So you mentioned also about the project that you did. How did you find the process and the environment that you were in? And would you recommend this experience to other Uni students who are listening today?

     

    Angela Zha

    Yup. So the process was really supportive. Once again, our team was matched with a wonderful mentor. And every week when we have meetings, she would teach us a bit of theory about a particular topic, which might be helpful for our case. But also what she would do is that she would arrange weekly meetings with senior executives from the company who are based all over the globe. So maybe this week we'd be speeding to a top executive based in Sydney, next week in Singapore, the week after in the United States. And that was so exciting because I got to learn about their stories and has opened my eyes to the world out there in finance in different roles. So I would say if you're listening right now and considering FThree, definitely apply for it.

     

    Camilla Love

    Thanks, Angela. It is really important. So our view at FThree, yours and mine is to ensure that not only are we giving you the practical work experience that you need to put on your CV and give you some of the skills and arm you with some knowledge, but it's also there to give you an understanding of what the value chain looks like and where the problem is within financial services and how it sits within the industry and why it's important. But also too to actually give you the network that you need to start in the industry, which I think is really important because students like yourself and your shoes go, okay, great. I've done my degree and I'd like to go into finance, but I actually don't know anyone in finance. So how am I going to get myself a job? Well, FThree is there to at least give you, if not ten people, 15 people that you would have met along the way. And it's great that they introduce you to their colleagues offshore because different markets are doing different things and people have different stories to tell about their experiences. And where they've come from.

     

    Camilla Love

    So it's been great that you took that away from a journey.

     

    Angela Zha

    Yeah.

     

    Camilla Love

    So I always ask all my guests the same question towards the end, which is what's the best career advice that you have been given and why did it resonate with you? The best and the reason why I'm asking for that, because it's a great culmination of different people's perspectives on careers advice and little Nuggets that you can sort of take away and apply today. So what career advice did you get?

     

    Angela Zha

    So my manager once said to me, don't be afraid to go outside of your comfort zone and network. Those are something that we touched on previously. But I think this is a really important piece of advice, especially in financial services. It's only through talking to other people that you can find out more about the industry and whether you enjoy the work. And talking to people also helps you build your network. So that when it comes to applying for jobs, the fact that you know someone who works there and can show that you understand the role and explain why that role appeals to you, that really makes a difference, and you will stand out so much more in the application process. Networking also shows that you have the motivation and drive to put yourself out there. And I would say that I sometimes could be quite shy, but as my manager said, people are friendly and willing to help, and the worst that can happen is that they don't reply to you. But there are endless possibilities of good things that can come out of you just reaching out.

     

    Camilla Love

    Yeah. And that is perfect advice, because I love networking, but I appreciate that there are lots of people out there who are scared of it or don't love it or uncomfortable, whatever. Which way? But Practise makes perfect in that space. And my top tip is just the first thing to do when you're in a room of people that you don't know is to just smile, because that will definitely take down barriers and make your welcoming and just puts a bright spark in everyone's day when you smile. So I think that's a fabulous piece of advice.

     

    Angela Zha

    Great.

     

    Camilla Love

    So, Angela, we're nearly at the end here, and we do this quick fire round of you got to say what's exactly in your head to the questions that I ask you for something a little challenging.

     

    Angela Zha

    Sure.

     

    Camilla Love

    Okay, good. This is all about allowing people to get to know you a little bit. Okay. So the first question is, if you could live in any country in the world.

     

    Angela Zha

    What would it be and why… that's tough. I think Singapore because it's such an exciting city with a wonderful mix of cultures. And I also think the food that is amazing.

     

    Camilla Love

    You should have done Singaporean food for your subject.

    Angela Zha

    I should have.

    Camilla Love

    Yeah, indeed. What is it? The salt and pepper crabs down at the.

     

    Angela Zha

    Yeah, the crabs.

     

    Camilla Love

    I haven't been to Singapore in a really long time, but I still remember those food markets down there.

     

    Angela Zha

    I remember Queuing for ages there. Yeah.

     

    Camilla Love

    Oh, gosh, yeah. Because everyone heads there. Right?

     

    Angela Zha

    Yeah.

     

    Camilla Love

    So the next question is, who’s your favourite superhero?

    Angela Zha

    My favourite superhero is Captain Marvel.

    Camilla Love

    Captain Marvel. Why?

     

    Angela Zha

    I thought she really shines girl power in the film. She has a lot of resilience and I know that only so far she has only starred as the main character in one movie, but she just really stood out to me when I watched it.

     

    Camilla Love

    So maybe she should have her own. Should it be the main character in the next series?

     

    Angela Zha

    Yep.

     

    Camilla Love

    Okay, next question. How would your friends describe you?

     

    Angela Zha

    Organised, loyal, diligent, and always willing to help out when they need me.

     

    Camilla Love

    That's nicely at the moment.

     

    Angela Zha

    I have FOMO of travelling overseas on the holidays.

     

    Camilla Love

    Doesn't everybody? Where would you go other than Singapore?

     

    Angela Zha

    I actually really want to go to New Zealand because I've never been before. I've heard such good stories about it and it's so close, but I've just never been and I really want to go.

     

    Camilla Love

    It is a great country. It is well worth travelling and spending some time there.

     

    Angela Zha

    Yeah. I'm also a big Lord of the Rings fan, so I want to go and see where they shop in the movies, see the Hobbit.

     

    Camilla Love

    It's an amazing country, so well worth saving the money and going to it.

     

    Angela Zha

    My first investment was an ETF.

     

    Camilla Love

    That's a great first start. And I'll give you that. That's a great first start.

     

    Angela Zha

    My favourite book is Gone With the Wind.

     

    Camilla Love

    Is it?

     

    Angela Zha

    Yeah. I love the book.

     

    Camilla Love

    That's very old school of you.

     

    Angela Zha

    And it would be my favourite movie too.

     

    Camilla Love

    Really?

     

    Angela Zha

    Yes.

     

    Camilla Love

    It's so long.

     

    Angela Zha

    I know, but it's my favourite movie.

     

    Camilla Love

    Why? Is it because of the love story or is the fact of the setting of the historical context that it's in? What was the best bit?

     

    Angela Zha

    I think when I read books, I tend to like the historical genre and so that first of all appealed to me and I think a lot of the themes really stood out and some of the topics that it evokes are just so interesting to discuss as well. And I think it was really interesting to learn about the history of the American Civil War period from a different perspective.

     

    Camilla Love

    Yeah. And there are lots of great, sort of deep themes that are resonating through that that are still quite current, obviously, today, which is important. If you had to invite anyone alive or dead to dinner.

     

    Angela Zha

    I would invite Vera Wang. She is a great inspiration to me and she is so entrepreneurial and resilient. And also another fun fact is that when I was a child, I always wanted to be a fashion designer.

     

    Camilla Love

    Hey, maybe if ever you get married, you could wear one of her fabulous dresses.

     

    Angela Zha

    Yes. That would be the dream.

     

    Camilla Love

    Wow. She's an interesting character, interesting cultural background, her impact on American fashion and global fashion. Really fabulous. Fabulous and really great globally known Asian leader, particularly who's female. So they're not necessarily a lot of them in that fashion area at all.

     

    Angela Zha

    Yeah.

     

    Camilla Love

    Last question. Describe why a career in finance would be awesome.

     

    Angela Zha

    So in a few words, it's exciting, it's inspiring, and I would say it's diverse.

     

    Camilla Love

    Okay. I love the fact that you've used diversity as one of your important points Because that's what we're all about here. It has not shoes in an Fthree and it's very important not only from an agenda point of view but also from a cultural and cognitive point of view as well. I think that the finance industry will be so excited to welcome you in. If somebody hasn't already snapped you up, there's definitely a fabulous and really bright career ahead of you in the finance industry, so I can't wait. When do you finish?

     

    Angela Zha

    So I finished my bachelor's degree this year, but I'm intending to do honours next year.

     

    Camilla Love

    So we've got a whole another year to wait, people, before she comes. So exciting. So thank you, Angela, for spending some time with us at shares not shoes today and telling us your journey because it's really important so not only for people who are in the industry to hear your story and understand the complexities of students going through school and University today, but also for those students who are thinking about having a career in finance or even thinking about doing a commerce degree or even just graduating their final years at school. It's a great story that you've had to tell and hopefully you can inspire a new influx of females into the financial services industry through the journey that you've been through and the stories that you've told today. So thanks. It's been really wonderful.

     

    Angela Zha

    I hope I provided some helpful tips for students out there and thank you so much again for having me today.

     

    Camilla Love

    No problem, Angela. So for more information on our guests at shares not shoes and further episodes, Head to sharesnotshoes.com and for more information on Fthree, head to Fthree.com au. As always, I look forward to you joining us next episode Where we continue to interview some fabulous people just like you've heard Angela and her stories today and give you the inside scoop into careers in finance. Bye, everybody. The information that is in this podcast.

     

    Camilla Love

    We always talk about finance in this podcast.

     

    Camilla Love

    But it's not financial advice. It's actually really careers advice. If you really want financial advice, I recommend that you speak to a financial planner or a broker and work out your own personal and circumstances with that. But this is all about careers advice and how finance will be a fabulous career for you.